Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:24 am
[quote="Sancha":1wh92t7o][quote="Alak Xiltyn":1wh92t7o]Personally I like having the Drow as the archetypal evil Elves but when you REALLY look at it even in 3/3.5 the Drow aren't really elves.[/quote:1wh92t7o]
Yes we are. We are elves. And we have far more in common with the Ar-Tel-Quessir than most elves are willing to admit.
Would you say that the people of Zhentil Keep or Amn are 'not really human'? [/quote:1wh92t7o]
I agree that drow are definitely elves in 3E. However, it's also true that most people have been treating them pretty much as a separate race (including them having a separate pantheon and everything). It seems that them being elves is more a technicality than anything else.
As such I also agree with Silke: ability wise they're far enough removed from elves that they could be considered a separate race. Heck, they're more different from elves than any of the other base races (stat/ability-wise).
The question would be, of course, what would truly separating them as a race do to the background? One of the fun things with drow has always been the various different approaches to them being elves (and, originally, not really any different from the other elven subraces). If drow become a separate race it's not going to make it easier for Eilistraeens to convince others to return to the surface (as they've been a bit 'return to the way things were' with regards to their racial heritage). Not saying that that's a bad thing (from a player's perspective), just that it changes things.
[quote="silke_rahn":1wh92t7o]btw would I find the 4E rules out yet or are they still in print? Also with regards to the book this post originally covered is it at B & N?[/quote:1wh92t7o]
4E is still being developed. As I understand it the Player Handbook just went to be typeset or something. If you want to know more about 4E then [url=http://www.enworld.org/index.php?page=4e:1wh92t7o]this is a good source[/url:1wh92t7o]. Also got a section dedicated to the Forgotten Realms.
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Yes we are. We are elves. And we have far more in common with the Ar-Tel-Quessir than most elves are willing to admit.
Would you say that the people of Zhentil Keep or Amn are 'not really human'? [/quote:1wh92t7o]
I agree that drow are definitely elves in 3E. However, it's also true that most people have been treating them pretty much as a separate race (including them having a separate pantheon and everything). It seems that them being elves is more a technicality than anything else.
As such I also agree with Silke: ability wise they're far enough removed from elves that they could be considered a separate race. Heck, they're more different from elves than any of the other base races (stat/ability-wise).
The question would be, of course, what would truly separating them as a race do to the background? One of the fun things with drow has always been the various different approaches to them being elves (and, originally, not really any different from the other elven subraces). If drow become a separate race it's not going to make it easier for Eilistraeens to convince others to return to the surface (as they've been a bit 'return to the way things were' with regards to their racial heritage). Not saying that that's a bad thing (from a player's perspective), just that it changes things.
[quote="silke_rahn":1wh92t7o]btw would I find the 4E rules out yet or are they still in print? Also with regards to the book this post originally covered is it at B & N?[/quote:1wh92t7o]
4E is still being developed. As I understand it the Player Handbook just went to be typeset or something. If you want to know more about 4E then [url=http://www.enworld.org/index.php?page=4e:1wh92t7o]this is a good source[/url:1wh92t7o]. Also got a section dedicated to the Forgotten Realms.
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Shir'le